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What happens to Victor Timely now?

Victor Timely’s fingerprints are throughout Loki season 2, even when he isn’t. As one of many many variations of Kang the Conqueror, Timely instantly feels vital to the second season, even earlier than we all know it’s his designs that impressed (nay, created?) the Time Loom. Positive, that was by He Who Stays’ design, however nonetheless! As we see from his workshop of innovations and the way in which Miss Minutes tries to come on to him: Timely’s bought the juice!

[Ed. note: This post will now spoil the end of episode 4 in some detail, with some speculation of what’s to come. Ye be warned.]

So it’s sort of stunning when, after all of the teamwork and energy and Marvel CGI that bought him to the TVA with O.B. to construct the magic machine that saved the day, he simply… spaghetti’d. In simply an prompt, Timely turns into noodles, and Loki is left dumbstruck, simply questioning what the hell they’re going to do with out him, whereas the viewers wonders what the heck Loki will do with out him.

Nonetheless, this season folding in on itself a lot has taught us one factor: This second may need main implications for the space-time continuum. Timely getting the time-space pasta remedy would possibly imply his existence, life, consciousness, or matter has merely been wibbly-wobblied elsewhere. As such, spaghettified Victor Timely may not be gone — or a minimum of, the narrative may not be carried out with him. So what precisely may have occurred to him? Listed below are our theories.

Concept 1: Victor Timely’s episode 4 destiny creates Kang the Conqueror

Picture: Marvel Studios

We all know that there are seemingly countless Kangs unfold throughout countless realities, however how did they change into… you recognize, Kang? He comes from the long run, so his superior know-how (and his supersuit) can account for a lot of of his powers. And we all know he has a genius-level mind, as proven by way of Victor Timely’s less-than-timely innovations. However his capability to manipulate time and actuality? It’s generally attributed to his swimsuit, however I feel it’s additionally just a little left open to interpretation.

What if we simply noticed its origin in Loki? The person was, as many have put it earlier than me, fully and completely spaghetti’d as he approached the Loom and the various totally different branches of the multiverse. Might his essence have been unfold out into the multiverse by way of the Loom, gaining sudden powers within the course of? Or, much more immediately, did this occasion someway change the mind chemistry of all different variants throughout the timelines, due to sheer proximity to these timelines? Might this have been the occasion that remodeled Victor Timely/Nathaniel Richards into Kang the Conqueror? It looks like the sort of factor the MCU would do — they love a grand reveal, in any case, and Loki has been requested to be surprisingly load-bearing when it comes to the universe’s subsequent Large Dangerous. So displaying his “origin” of kinds within the collection wouldn’t be that a lot of a stretch. —Pete Volk

Concept 2: Victor Timely goes to go elsewhere within the Marvel Cinematic Universe

The Avengers stand among wreckage and flames during the Battle of New York

Picture: Marvel Studios

What little we all know in regards to the technobabble of the Time Loom is it’s pulling all the varied timelines of the multiverse and getting clogged. However not like an precise stitching machine, the Loom is simply sitting in huge area, pulling in no matter strands get close to it. So perhaps when Victor turns into strands within the huge vacuum outdoors the TVA, his remnants simply additionally get sucked up into the Loom, like one big machine-like wormhole.

From there, Timely may plop out… wherever! My guess is it doesn’t even have to be wherever huge (or actually shouldn’t be), just like the Battle of New York or the combat in opposition to Thanos. It’ll simply be a fast little end-credits gag, like the unique Guardians of the Galaxy tag with Howard the Duck. Hopefully he lands someplace he can maintain making his little innovations; if not, properly, there’s at all times the subsequent Kang. —Zosha Millman

Concept 3: Victor Timely died!

Jonathan Majors as Victor Timely in Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania.

Picture: Marvel Studios

I feel he’s useless. Which might seemingly current an issue to the timeline: If Victor Timely is de facto the Kang who invented the TVA, then he’d want to haven’t died earlier than he invented the TVA. Maybe we’re about to see the fallout of that — two climactic episodes by which all TVA workers get up of their regular lives on the timeline, as a result of there was by no means a TVA to pull them out of it. Possibly Mobius would lastly get to trip a Jet Ski. Possibly he’d have to select between Jet Skis and placing the TVA again into existence someway.

However truthfully, causality solely appears to exist when Loki desires it to, so who is aware of! If Timely is useless, there are loads extra Kangs to go round. —Susana Polo

Concept 4: Victor Timely is spaghetti now, interval.

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My idea is brief, uncomplicated, and finest summarized by way of the phrases of Polygon govt editor Matthew Patches when he’s in dad mode: pasghetti.

That’s proper, Victor Timely is just not He Who Stays, essentially, however he’s an equally if not much more vital variant of Kang: the one who began spaghetti. Contained in the partitions of the TVA, far outdoors the bounds of normal time, all spaghetti, and presumably all European noodle shapes on the whole, have been found mainly by way of the disintegration of Victor Timely. By way of his sacrifice, the brilliant divinity of his newly noodly type will slip into the loom and be dispersed all through the multiverse, sliding proper into the right place in every universe’s historical past to assist somebody uncover the holiest type of pasta sauce supply: the spaghetti noodle.

In fact, it’s vital to keep in mind that Victor is however one man, and his corporeal type is proscribed by its measurement, even when stretched by the unstable Loom. This implies, tragically, that not each timeline will get to expertise the magic of spaghetti. Some misplaced out on its pasta perfection, as a result of their universe was by no means delivered a horrifying Cronenberg-esque noodle-shaped piece of a person. However thank God we exist in one which did. —Austen Goslin

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